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Post subject: My Columbia Blue Dot (new or old?) |
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Joined: August 6, 2012
Posts: 41Reputation:0Reputation Power: 1 | Here is a pic of my Columbia Blue Dot. Is this ball the old style with a hardness rating approaching 90, or one of the newer ones that are around the low 80s?
What do you guys think?
-Pat
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Post subject: Re: My Columbia Blue Dot (new or old?) |
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Joined: August 9, 2012
Posts: 61
Location: Montgomery, Al.Reputation:6Reputation Power: 1 | Looks old the newer ones had more silver color I believe.
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Michael Shepard
Columbia 300 Ambassador
IBPSIA Phase I Technician
PAP - 5 9/16 Right 7/8 Up
Tilt - 7
Rot - 50
Spd - 17
Rev - Currently Unknown
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Post subject: Re: My Columbia Blue Dot (new or old?) |
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Joined: October 18, 2011
Posts: 151Reputation:17Reputation Power: 1 | 1980 per serial # 0Z. It should have started to 'yellow' a little bit from the aging of the resin.
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Post subject: Re: My Columbia Blue Dot (new or old?) |
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Joined: August 6, 2012
Posts: 41Reputation:0Reputation Power: 1 | Looks old the newer ones had more silver color I believe. I don't know if this helps, but I bought it in 2000. I believe the date code on it is December of 2000. I guess it could be Dec 1980, or Dec 1990. I know I got it in 2000, but don't remember the circumstances of my ball driller getting it into stock (if he already had it stored, or he ordered it). -Pat
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Post subject: Re: My Columbia Blue Dot (new or old?) |
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Joined: August 6, 2012
Posts: 41Reputation:0Reputation Power: 1 | 1980 per serial # 0Z. It should have started to 'yellow' a little bit from the aging of the resin. You posted this message right when I was replying. So, in 1980, those were the high 80s/low 90s durometer readings, weren't they? -Pat
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Post subject: Re: My Columbia Blue Dot (new or old?) |
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Joined: October 18, 2011
Posts: 151Reputation:17Reputation Power: 1 | 1980 per serial # 0Z. It should have started to 'yellow' a little bit from the aging of the resin. You posted this message right when I was replying. So, in 1980, those were the high 80s/low 90s durometer readings, weren't they? -Pat I'm pretty sure your ball was manufactured before June 1980. Columbia started with year then P (I believe) to start production runs from the mid-seventies and changed to year, A, beginning 1981. I took a good look at the photo and I see the 'yellow' starting to come out.I still have a 16lb silver '75 White Dot undrilled that's really changed color over the years. If my memory is correct my '78 punched 88-89. The surprising thing was that it hooked more than my White Dot and, almost as much as my '77 Yellow Dot on light oil. I don't know that it will still be that hard today. Both my Yellow Dot and Violet White Dot have softened through age. The Yellow Dot punches 70-72 and the White Dot is around 73-74.
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Post subject: Re: My Columbia Blue Dot (new or old?) |
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Joined: January 16, 2012
Posts: 277Reputation:43Reputation Power: 1 | Looks like a 90.
The newer ones have BD on the side of the ball.
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Post subject: Re: My Columbia Blue Dot (new or old?) |
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Joined: August 16, 2010
Posts: 210Reputation:68Reputation Power: 1 | I don't believe yours is from the 80's. It is not the newer ones with the big BD either. Yours is from the 90's. By the look of the serial number and the other identifying marks it looks like a 1990 Blue Dot. The 0Z serial number, If it's a 9Z than 1999.
The old ones have a very light blue dot, the newer ones have a darker blue dot.
I have one from 1987 I believe, that has the very light blue dot. In my opinion you can tell by the way the silver is swirled and the appearance of the cover stock. The older ones have a much more silver pearl look to them vs the newer ones that look more white pearl. The newer ones just look different than the older ones. Lastly you can look inside the holes at the inner material. The inner material is different in the old blue dots vs the newer ones. This is something you would have to know what you are seeing to spot.
Newer also has larger engraving for the Columbia 300
Never ones also have MADE IN USA under the Columbia logo
If I get a chance I will post a picture of my old Blue Dot vs. a newer Blue Dot I also have here. The ball on the left (OLD) is the serial number 7R and the ball on the right (NEWER) is 1X
[url][[URL=http://s1130.photobucket.com/user/pba22035/media/2f9a53f3-fa17-42a3-b7de-131c72ae6bbe_zpsf5949d3f.jpg.html][/url]/url]
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Post subject: Re: My Columbia Blue Dot (new or old?) |
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Joined: August 6, 2012
Posts: 41Reputation:0Reputation Power: 1 | I don't believe yours is from the 80's. It is not the newer ones with the big BD either. Yours is from the 90's. By the look of the serial number and the other identifying marks it looks like a 1990 Blue Dot. The 0Z serial number, If it's a 9Z than 1999.
The old ones have a very light blue dot, the newer ones have a darker blue dot.
I have one from 1987 I believe, that has the very light blue dot. In my opinion you can tell by the way the silver is swirled and the appearance of the cover stock. The older ones have a much more silver pearl look to them vs the newer ones that look more white pearl. The newer ones just look different than the older ones. Lastly you can look inside the holes at the inner material. The inner material is different in the old blue dots vs the newer ones. This is something you would have to know what you are seeing to spot.
Newer also has larger engraving for the Columbia 300
Never ones also have MADE IN USA under the Columbia logo
If I get a chance I will post a picture of my old Blue Dot vs. a newer Blue Dot I also have here. The ball on the left (OLD) is the serial number 7R and the ball on the right (NEWER) is 1X
[url][[URL=http://s1130.photobucket.com/user/pba22035/media/2f9a53f3-fa17-42a3-b7de-131c72ae6bbe_zpsf5949d3f.jpg.html][/url]/url] So what you're saying is the ball on the left is the 'older' version with a 90 hardness, and the ball on the right is the 'newer' version with a low 80s hardness? -Pat
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Post subject: Re: My Columbia Blue Dot (new or old?) |
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Joined: August 16, 2010
Posts: 210Reputation:68Reputation Power: 1 | Yes, but I am not sure of the years when the hardness of the balls changed. I can dig out my durometer and check them both later.
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Post subject: Re: My Columbia Blue Dot (new or old?) |
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Joined: August 6, 2012
Posts: 41Reputation:0Reputation Power: 1 | Yes, but I am not sure of the years when the hardness of the balls changed. I can dig out my durometer and check them both later. Not necessary for my purpose, but go for it if you're itchin to know. I think I'm going to replace mine with a Storm Ice Storm. It's the hardest ball on the market today (85-87). Thanks guys for your comments! -Pat
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Revs: 300
MPH: 21.00 (at foulline until 15 feet down lane)
Axis Tilt: 13.5in -- 0 degrees
Track: Very High
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Right Handed, all current equipment is 15lb.
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Post subject: Re: My Columbia Blue Dot (new or old?) |
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Joined: February 8, 2010
Posts: 94
Location: 48912Reputation:25Reputation Power: 1 | Yes, but I am not sure of the years when the hardness of the balls changed. I can dig out my durometer and check them both later. Not necessary for my purpose, but go for it if you're itchin to know. I think I'm going to replace mine with a Storm Ice Storm. It's the hardest ball on the market today (85-87). Thanks guys for your comments! -Pat Not only is it the hardest, but the undrilled differential in the Ice Storm, or any Storm 'pancake' core ball, is one of the lowest on the market at 0.006
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Post subject: Re: My Columbia Blue Dot (new or old?) |
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Joined: August 6, 2012
Posts: 41Reputation:0Reputation Power: 1 | Yes, but I am not sure of the years when the hardness of the balls changed. I can dig out my durometer and check them both later. Not necessary for my purpose, but go for it if you're itchin to know. I think I'm going to replace mine with a Storm Ice Storm. It's the hardest ball on the market today (85-87). Thanks guys for your comments! -Pat Not only is it the hardest, but the undrilled differential in the Ice Storm, or any Storm 'pancake' core ball, is one of the lowest on the market at 0.006 Can you elaborate a bit on what the differential in the ball does for a spare ball? I've been out of bowling for 20 years, and have just recently returned. All the new terminology, and having the internet to gain knowledge is amazing to me sometimes. -Pat
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